Dr. Jeff Menzise & Rev. Calvin Butts On The Carl Nelson Show

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Clinical Psychologist, Author & Life Coach, Dr. Jeff Menzise checks in to give us his view of today’s meeting between Trump & Kanye West. Dr. Menzise there is more than meets the eye in this conference between the two polarizing figures. Before we get to Dr. Menzise, the Rev. Calvin Butts from Harlem’s Abyssinian Baptist Church on how Black Pastors have to stand apart from white liberals and conservative Pastors. Rev Butts says many white pastors have focussed on abortion and LGBTQ rights while not giving race and racism enough attention.